It seems every day now that I see a complaint from a Logitech G27 or Fanatec wheel owner that the wheel they invested in is not supported on the New Gen console they want to race on. Whether it’s here on our blog, in our forums, direct emails or comments on You Tube. Anytime we report on new title on the Playstation 4 or XBox One, someone is pointing the blame at the developer and or the console manufacturer for not supporting the peripheral they invested in.
Here’s one of the latest posts on our Facebook page:
Michael Silliman: As long as the game upon release includes drivers to use my G25 on the PS4, they can take all the time they want. A smart company would do the math about how many race game aficionados that have Logitech and Fanatec wheels would comprise the bulk of the sales for this title. For me…no Logitech wheel drivers…no sale.
Logitech in particular made this statement on their twitter feed a few months back regarding the G27 compatibility on the PS4:
G27 requires a security chip for full functionality w/ PS4, and it does not have this chip. Sorry
That Tweet has now been removed and Logitech is pointing blame at Sony by directing people to this thread in their forums every time someone brings up the topic.
Then if you check out this thread from the developers of DriveClub, they state
We love racing wheels! We’re working closely with Thrustmaster to support their awesome wheels already and when Logitech support wheel peripherals on PlayStation 4 we’d love to support them in DRIVECLUB too.
and..
As I said to Diego-gene, we’re big fans of wheels, so whether its Logitech or Fanatec we’d love to support their wheels if they choose to bring them to PlayStation 4.
So who’s to blame ? The game developers, Sony / Microsoft or the companies that make the peripherals? Per Logitechs original comment on Twitter, they lack the security chip needed to be on the PS4. They also pulled out of the console market about a year ago per this financial report in late 2013. Here’s a specific quote from it as well.
“We are taking immediate actions to shape a faster and more profitable Logitech,” continued Mr. Darrell. “We are developing more mobility-related products, leveraging the powerful growth of tablets and smartphones. We intend to sustain our leadership in PC platform-related products where we have engineering, distribution and scale advantages. Our goal with PC-platform products is to maximize profitability, while investing selectively in growing categories. We have also identified a number of product categories that no longer fit with our current strategic direction. As a result, we have initiated the process to divest our remote controls and digital video security categories, and we plan to discontinue other non-strategic products, such as speaker docks and console gaming peripherals, by the end of Calendar Year 2013.”
The lead developer of DriveClub Paul Rustchynsky made it quite clear that it was on Logitech to support their peripherals on the Playstation 4.
In my opinion, they should make that security chip and sell it to anyone that owns a G25 / 27 or even a DFGT. I can’t imagine it’s that tough and it could be in the form of a USB dongle that you plug your wheel into and then into the console.
It’s also my opinion that a lot of you need to stop blaming the software developers and console makers and write to the company that developed your wheel. They are responsible for having their peripherals licensed for use on a particular console. I would venture to guess that the software developers aren’t allowed to write code to make those wheels compatible or they risk their relationship with the console manufacturer and having their game published on say the Playstation 4 or XBox One. Sony and Microsoft have rules to follow when it comes to having peripherals compatible with their consoles and if I were developing a title for a console, I would abide by them.
You can cry foul, threaten boycotts, etc but that won’t change things. Thrustmaster obtained the proper licenses, Fanatec is working at a solution and so should Logitech.
The other option for you owners of the Logitech G25 / G27 is to move to the PC where a security chip and or license isn’t required and every software developer supports every popular wheel and pedal set as well as ones that aren’t so popular.
What’s your take on this debacle ? Is it on Logitech, Sony or the developer of the title to make the G27 compatible with the Playstation 4? Let’s hear your opinion in the comments below.
It’s clearly on Logitech if you ask me. They don’t want my money? That’s fine. I already moved on and bought a Thrustmaster TX that works with my XBO and my PC (and is generally a better wheel than my G27 was anyway).
I’d have been happy to stay with Logitech if they were going to play ball but it seems they don’t want anything to do with the console market. Their loss, as far as I”m concerned.
I have a G27 for sale if anyone is interested. 😉
Personally, I’m not blaming anyone, but to be honest, both the PS4 and the XboxOne are actually PC’s in a small box, they have PC style hardware inside, so it’s both Sony and Microsoft that decided to cripple these machines (be it be hardware of through their Operating system) so they use proprietary hardware.
If they were to open up the USB ports to the standards of a regular PC, then any USB device would work, would it not?
I had a PS4 in the spring, had it 2 days, brought it back, the thing was useless at the time, couldn’t play mp3’s, couldn’t watch video files, there was so much I couldn’t do with the PS4 that I could do with the PS3, so I got another PS3 instead.
My guess is as long as Sony and Microsoft stay with proprietary hardware (have to buy a license to build something for their system) then guys like me are going to say….. Thanks….. you just saved me $400 to $600 because I have no use for your system since it doesn’t support my expensive hardware I already have.
Oh, just to show how ignorant Sony has gotten, I have the remote control for my PS3 (when watching stuff like Netflix), it doesn’t work on the PS4, so that’s another piece of hardware I’d have to throw away because Sony wants you to buy another? I don’t think so. I’m not made out of money, sorry Sony.
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at the end of the day they are corporations out to make money. That’s why your fanatec and logitech aren’t supported on either… so it forces you to buy TM where sony and ms make royalties off of each new wheel sold. That’s why there is licensing. Fanatec is the only one trying to remedy this right now with the CSW V2 to have 1 base for all but put the licensing in the rims so sony and ms still make their money. Logitech is flat out done with consoles and don’t expect it to ever get the support. Also many people forget fanatec was never truly supported on ps3… it was piggy backing off the g27 drivers……so yeah… buy TM or wait for csw v2.
Everyone seriously, t300/tx and csw v2, css sq/th8a, t3pa/cspv2 is a massive upgrade… your g27 will sell on forums/ebay for $150-$180… sell it off and upgrade when you can. It’s worth it.
My understanding is that it’s a one time license fee and that neither Sony nor Microsoft make royalties on the peripherals. At least it’s that way with Micorsoft per a long conversation I had with the developers of Forza when I was there in March for my tour and interview.
I gotcha, well let’s hope so.
I am one of those “outrage g25 owners” I went through the 12 steps and its time for me to move on.
I am waiting to buy a T300 rs as soon as its available, I got a set of T500 rs pedals from Craigslist and cannot wait to get rid of the damper feeling the g25 has. I used the G25 from ps2, ps3 and pc for years and years , Time to move on.
Thanks Darin for sharing your thoughts about this topic with us.
In my opinion its a matter of industrial standards – in this case the standard for the Universal Serial Bus. Sony is very creative in developing “security features” to protect their interests (e. g. “Extended Copy Protection” for Audio-CDs).
So this case we are facing is about a mysterious security chip, that -so I assume- should prevent “jailbreaking” via an usb programming device. This security chip on the peripheral device tells the console “Hey, I’m a certified device – please talk to me”.
Why are industrial standards affected? When it comes to hardware you have some kind of hardware device that can be connected to a standard port and communicates via a standard protocol. The support of any device can be made with device drivers in a specific game. Sony broke this rule with the need for a security chip.
And it’s not that easy for Logitech like you said with some kind of USB-Dongle. Logitech would have to produce a dongle with a standard usb input-port (thats what every device G25/G27/DFGT needs) and a standard usb connector to the ps4. When there is no specific (and encrypted) communication between wheel and dongle, you could plug in any other device into this dongle and connect it to the PS4 (for example also “bad devices” to break the console security).
Fanatec can implement the chip into their rims as they only can connect/communicate to/with their wheel bases. I really appreciate their efforts.
So – who is to blame in my opinion:
1. Sony – I had the PS2, the PS3 and I’m a PS4-owner of the first hour. I really like the potential of this console and I’m so disappointed that they don’t use it yet. But the support of old devices – dammit, they really screwed it up this time. Beginning with the bluetooth remote control for playing blu-rays/dvds and now the Logitech wheels which were promoted fot the use with the PS3/Gran Turismo.
2. Logitech – Yeah, it seems that they are not interested anymore in the console market. They could have pushed Sony more to find a solution. But they are really not interested, I guess.
The game developers are not to blame. They could easily support devices with different drivers and could push their sales to a greater amount of people.
Conclusion for me: I own the Logitech Driving Force GT and the Fanatec Clubsport Wheel (V1). I won’t buy any other wheel – the Fanatec is perfect. Maybe Fanatec finds a solution with a firmware update for the old Clubsport base and a PS4 compatible rim. I guess I would buy another rim as I just own the Formula 1 rim yet. My Logitech is going to ebay. If I get not PS4-Support on my devices – still happy PC-Racing for me. More sim – less arcarde, i can live with that.
Why don’t they(Logitech) just open the codes on that chip??What is no point that they(Logitech) still have to keep their “security chip”?They(Logitech) don’t even makes any NEW wheels.I belive that many people will makes a USB dongle if they let other company had the “security code”.
I don’t think you understand, they need to release NEW wheels with Sony’s PS4 security chip inside. Such dongle as you describe would also need a license from Sony and the chip inside. Sony will never allow this as it would mean being able to plug any device to their PS4. That’s why Fanatec can put the chip in their wheels, you still need a cswv2 base in order to use it.
I still do not see how it is the fault of Logitech or Fanatec, they did not come up with this “security chip” which is just a way to force players to buy Thrustmaster, the company that just happens to have already signed an exclusive contract with Sony. I am over it and have moved on to PC where I can race on triple screens without buying 3 consoles and 3 editions of the game and in much better quality on each screen.
Where have you read or seen that Thrustmaster has an “exclusive contract”? Fanatec has stated they are working on compatibility with both consoles and obviously purchased the license. Logitech (if you read my article) said they wouldn’t be producing peripherals for the console market any longer.
The list of wheels that can be used on a PS4 says they signed some type of exclusivity deal. Thrustmaster only.
Can I show you their contract, of course not, but that does not mean it does not exist. Sorry if I sound like a conspiracy theorist.
If you read my article, I point to specific stories and reports on Logitech pulling out of the console market so scratch them off your list. Then there’s Fanatec and they are working on becoming a licensed product versus emulating a G25 (which is what they did on the PS3). So.. Fanatec is working on becoming a licensed product and Thrustmaster beat them to the punch.
Here’s another way to debunk your theory. Thrustmaster doesn’t have enough capital to sign an exclusive deal with Sony.And.. I don’t think Sony would lock out the competition because they are partial to Thrustmaster.
At any rate, I have ended up buying a used PS3 and GT6 to get me thru the Winter with my PS friends, Then I will go ahead and buy a T500rs and switch over to that for PS4 and PC use in the future.
I did write a letter to Logitech and I received their response a couple of months ago.
“This is Gian from The Logitech Customer Care Team and I am glad to assist you.
Tim, I understand your concern about the compatibility of the G27 and the PS4 Console. Let me help you with this.
We still don’t have an official notification whether or not the wheels will be supported on PS4 consoles. The G25/G27 Racing Wheels work with HID drivers found on PS3 port consoles, so we’re expecting the same driver implementation on its current successor.
This basically depends on the game console developers (Sony) to verify if their driver support will accommodate external wheel controllers, or to update it in a timely manner. Logitech is fully aware of this, and positively coordinates with the proper support to resolve this “compatibility” issue.”
It’s on Sony and their desire to dominate in a single vendor space ( them and their “partners” ).
It’s like buying a car and then next year your state decides you cant drive on the roads unless it has a chip in it to pay the toll.
So ONLY cars with the chip can use the toll road, no card, no cash, no prepurchase.
Any state legislature that tried that would get lynched, but Sony fans will support it when Sony play those money grabbing tactics.
The “security” is BS: They could easily restrict USB device recognition and features to prevent hijacks.
BUT easier and more profitable to screw the customers – again. Why I’ve not touched a PS since PS2.
Whatever they do is nothing change to me.I had race in iracing and AC because thier stupid policy.
And I don’t want to use any so call “offical wheel “.
The idea of a dongle solution would work but ultimately misses the point. There simply IS NO security risk. The whole idea of needing a “security chip” is a ruse on Sony’s part to close off device compatibility and, in so doing, create a new revenue stream. In forcing device manufacturers to license for compatibility, Sony (how clever!) gets a cut out of every new wheel sold whereas before they got none. We’ve been through this before with Micro($)oft with the Xbox 360 being closed off to any wheels but officially licensed ones, never mind other perfectly functional USB wheels. As a result, we as sim racers/consumers are supposed to throw out all our perfectly fine old wheels and buy a new one simply because of a completely arbitrary “security” requirement. No.
Plus, the unwritten intention is to force the sale of a new, pricey *wheel*, not a cheap accessory providing compatibility (there’s no money to be made). And it is for this reason why there will not be a dongle solution.
This is all about money. Sony precipitated all this in finally following M$’ lead and closing off compatibility for the next-gen console. There is no functional reason or security reason why a Logitech wheel or Fanatec, etc., should not be compatible with the PS4. The device makers did not cause this and is not on them for being lazy. This is greed on Sony’s part.
I think your viewpoint may be quite accurate. I use to think make a dongle but now I’m not convinced about the chip either. I say this because when the PS4 came out you could not plug in harddrives/usbs with mp3’s and videos on them like you could for the ps3. The reason at that time was the usb compatibility was changed for the ps4 to not allow this (aka sony wants you to buy music through the sony music store app so they make money).
Fast forward to now, and from what I can interpret from IGN’s latest info, the Playstation 2.0 firmware update is adding external harddrive/usb plug in compatibility to play music and videos on the console…seems a bit odd that all of a sudden this becomes possible on the ps4. Seeing this made me think Sony probably could also release an update to have the usb’s of old wheels recognized if they wanted to.
Thus, I’m just not convinced anymore that Sony really has no part to play in this. That said, Logitech provided a much less than impressive effort to care for their console gamers by leaving the sector completely so maybe Sony is just thinking “why should we help drive g27 sales when they don’t even want to participate in our industry anymore?” Can we really fault Sony for that? Not really.
So really I think Sony is a bigger part of the problem than people are realizing, but Logitech did not help their case by the way they conducted business and thus have drawn themselves into a situation where Sony can easily blame them in a convincing fashion as being at fault for the lack of g27 compatibility on the ps4.
While I feel sympathy for g27 owners, I think the more time passes without support on the ps4, the more you’ll see people moving on to newer peripherals. The g27 is not the end-all ultimate driving wheel. Far from it. But it IS extremely popular. I think as time passes, some of the g27 owners eager for ps4 racing games will either upgrade to a new wheel for ps4 like the t300 or t500, while others will just move over exclusively to PC by upgrading their existing PC setup, choosing to keep the wheel. New hardware requires exclusivity in order to encourage early adopters to buy out of neccesity and influence those who are on the fence about the new technology. Without exclusivity, it is much harder for new hardware to enter the market and flourish.
Why would you need to move to a newer peripheral when your old peripheral is still working perfectly, it makes no sense?
Upgrading to a new wheel isn’t cheap either, you’re talking a couple of hundred quid at least?
Buying a good wheel is a serious investment, it’s not like buying a new chip or gpu for your pc, you expect them to become outdated after a few years but why should a steering wheel? Fair enough if it breaks or wears out but there are a lot of these wheels that are in excellent condition, my Driving Force GT being one of em!
As far as new hardware goes, you’re talking a steering wheel here, the new Thrustmasters work exactly the same as the Old Logitechs, they may be slightly better but that’s it!
Exclusivity my eye! Wake up and don’t buy into this bullshit!
You’ve seen through the cracks of cooperate business practice. Congrats. Btw, did you know that gt7 will not be on ps3? Do think it’s because sony is evil? No. They want to drive ps4 into your home. Perhaps you will consider the possibility that making something exclusive actually works in most cases, and drives business for new products and technology. Ever considered the possibility that thrustmaster worked a deal with sony? And if Logitech wanted to help their customers out, don’t you think they’d have made a solution for ps4 by now?
100% correct, Sony are the new Apple!!
Glad I upgraded my pc, Assetto Corsa and Racroom are better than any console driving games anyway!
You could always choose NOT to buy Playstation 4 or XBox One and send your own ‘message’.
I’m seriously considering trading my PS4 in and leaving this bullshit behind for good!
Logitech is old technology. Why aren’t g27 owners complaining that Logitech isn’t making new model racing wheels anymore? Instead they blame sony? Look at thrustmaster, fanatec, and even mad catz! They’ve all got a new wheel out in the past year! At least one from each is supported on next gen consoles. The g27 complaints are indicative of the demographic that own the wheels: Archaic sim racing enthusiasts. They made one investment into technology and expect support from all platforms for a decade. That’s a pipe dream. Move on. That wheel is more than a decade old.
As long as they continue to support the most important platform, the PC, I don’t mind. I agree with you it would be nice if they brought out a new wheel with newer technology, but my wheel works just fine and my sons, which has had serious useage over the years, is good as well. When it breaks I’ll buy a newer model. As to the Sony situation, the company that deliberately kept the cost of blue ray players high until it sold enough PS3s, then the price of them dropped like a stone, is no stranger to marketing ploys. You may describe me as archaic, but I kind of think that my demogrphic believes so many youngsters today buy too easily into hype and corporate BS.
I look at it this way. You wouldn’t try to play a new DX11 game on a 10 year old graphics card would you? Then why would you want to use ancient hardware on a Next Gen console? There were absolutely no promises made by either Sony or Microsoft your old peripherals would work on their latest and greatest consoles. You have 2 choices. Buy a new compatible wheel or stick to PC gaming with your old wheels.
Unfortunately the security chip isn’t the only problem Logitech would have to solve before they could make their existing wheels compatible. As far as I know they are using a proprietary technology for their FF-wheels which is patented by a company called “Immersion”. so in order to use their API/SDK/Driver or whatever, they would have to licence it again for the PS4 because every new console counts as a new platform while the PC always counts as one platform, regardless which OS version you use. There is a really long NeoGAF-thread about this topic, maybe I can find it again.
There was a settlement between Logitech and Immersion a few years ago and Logitech had to pay a lot of money because they allowed Sony to use their PC-wheels on the PS3. They surely don’t want to pay again for making it compatible with the PS4 after they already decided to leave the console market. Also, I’m pretty sure Sony wouldn’t allow a simple USB-dongle with a security chip which you might use for any other USB-device. The PS3 has been hacked by attaching simple “jailbreak-dongles” to the USB-ports.
This “CronuxMAX” device sounds really interesting but since it only emulates the regular DS4 controller and not a PS4-compatible wheel like the T300, I highly doubt it would be a satisfying solution because it’s restricted to the sensitivity of the DS4 thumbsticks and triggers which is really poor, even compared to a really cheap budget wheel. You really don’t want your decent G27 or any other wheel to behave like the thumbstick of a controller.
Great point about Immersion. Curious why Fanatec has never had to license that technology. None of their wheels have ever had the Immersion logo and or license as far as I know.
As far as I understand it, Immersion doesn’t hold the patents to Force Feedback in general. Logitech just licenced their API or firmware. Just like a game developer would licence the Unreal or Crytec engine rather than writing their own one.
The ability to use any USB-HID controller on the PS3 was really great from a consumer’s point of view. I could just hook up some old and cheap USB PC controllers to play FIFA Football (yes football, not soccer… I’m German) with a couple of friends without spending an insane amount of money for 4 DS3 controller. I could even use my very first FF wheel (Logitech Formula Force GP), that I bought in 2001, to play GT5!
there is NO SECURITY CHIP. That’s just a story made up. Thrustmaster T500 and Thrustmaster T100 (Immersion Technology) both have been released before PS4 came out and they work on PS4 games (Driveclub so far; Project CARS officially supported). So NO CHIP for them …
Yes and No.
The T80 and T300 are the only wheels at the moment that the PS4 console recognizes as valid controllers. However, the game developer can choose to support additional USB-controllers INGAME by writing their own drivers. The War Thunder did so by supporting a list of PC-only flightsticks. The developer of a new fighting game (forgot the name) did the same thing to a variety of PS3 fighting sticks. Those controllers only work ingame, you can’t navigate the console menus or use the PS- or Share-button, but that should only be a minor issue since you can still use your old hardware.
A game developer usually doesn’t have to mess with drivers because it’s usually handled by the PC or console OS. I guess Thrustmaster gave their drivers for the T500 to the Driveclub and PCars devs. They both underlined how “close” TM has worked with them during development.
Yes Martin, but my point was clear. There’s no security chip. T100 and T500 work great in gameplay of Driveclub (i dont care if they dont work in menus), with full FFB. So it’s all about drivers and Sony decision and perhaps some licences. The T100 is based on Immersion , so is G27 , G25 , DFGT from Logitech.
Is it Sony’s decision? As far as I understand it, both the Driveclub and Project Cars developers pointed out, they worked very closely with Thrustmaster to support their wheels. Sounds like TM gave their drivers directly to the developers to support their non-PS4 wheels. Since Logitech already announced that they will leave the console market, why would they put much effort into making new drivers?
It is indeed the fact, that there is a chip. That chip has a good reason, that reason is so that Sony, and Microsoft make more money. You can only get those chips from them. And that way, they also can control what works with their consoles, and what doesn’t.
Everything without that chip, is indeed not recognized by the console.
And yes, you can integrate drivers for wheels directly into the Game.
However, i’m sure Thrustmaster has a special deal with those developers, they would be stupid if they didn’t want to have a deal with them. As in: Only do that for our wheels. And so on, but even if not, i dunno if Fanatec has the manpower to write special drivers that can be used.
And Logitech…. well Logitech has no interest in doing any drivers, they also have no interest in investing money, they don’t even care about their customers. Which i had to learn earlier this year, when i started having problems with a G510, which keeps crashing the USB on my PC; so i had to restart my computer with the reset button about once per hour, sometimes all 2 hours. Fun part about that: They claim it happens with every keyboard on the market…
And even with their new Pricetag on the G27 of 299 Euro (372 USD) we probably wont see Logitech doing anything in regard of PS4 and XBox One compatibility. (The price is btw a reason, why i recommend everyone to not buy the G27, it’s just way to overpriced now, especially given that you get CSR Pedals and Forza CSR Wheel for less then that. And the T300 you also get for 299 Euro already. And i consider them both to be much better sets/wheels.)
I was frustrated when it became apparent that existing Fanatec wheels would not work on the Xbox One. Well, that was almost a year ago and I quickly got over it. I bought an Xbox One on Black Friday last November and after several weeks of playing Forza 5 with a controller, I caved and ordered a Thrustmaster TX wheel. Well, lets just say that I am glad I did, it is a great wheel and Forza 5 and now Forza Horizon 2 make great use of it. I also have a Thrustmaster T500RS and it works great with Gran Turismo 5 and Gran Turismo 6, as one would expect, since it is the official Gran Turismo wheel and GT clearly has been optimized to work well with it. Yes, life would be simpler for us if all wheels worked on all consoles and PCs, but that is not going to happen and thus I intend to enjoy sim racing as much as I can. The lack of wheel support on the Playstation 4 is not a big issue right now, at least to me, because there are not any decent racing games available for it yet. When I do eventually buy a PS4, around the time of GT7’s release in 2020 or 2021, then hopefully I can use my T500. Until then, I am happy with what I have and would urge everyone to consider upgrading older wheels and pedal sets. The new stuff is generally better anyway.
My take on this is why invest so much time and money for consoles that barely have any sim to play. The ps4 doesn’t have any, and the xbox one only have forza 5 wich is lacking on a number of things to properly call it a sim. I think most simmers moved on to pc, where you choose when to update your wheel and the selection of sim software is just mindblowing, frankly I just don’t see any reason to play sims on consoles anymore.
i hope they dont forget the Driving force gt wheel also a very good wheel which deserves support. g25 g27 owners. if you get support. dont forget the rest of us.and we all need to keep getting on at them sony and thrustmaster are just waiting to sell as many thrustmaster wheels as possible then you will see the logiutech support come back to ps4. this shouldnt be a big issue at all. dont buy the security story cause the damn thing is online and patchable. they could give us support just like that if they wanted. its there choice to not give us support. well. after they sold off all those crappy thrustmaster P80s and p100s hopefully there greed and hunger will have been apprised. for now. dont fill there hungry belly’s with your money. wait.
I bought a TS80 for my PS4 and it was awful. I traded it for a Driving force GT and the difference is night and day! Sony will lose out with me, I’ve already cancelled my Project Cars preorder on PS4 and Preordered on PC instead! £20 cheaper, higher frame rates, better looking, no psplus bullshit and no being held to ransom by a company that are starting to put Apple to shame!!
The suggestion of moving to PC is kind of stupid and the editor is acting like a PC fanboy. Sorry but is the true, The best Sim race game is Gran Turismo, and Sony is gonna lose a lot of sales if they don’t make those wheels compatible with the console when the game is release., The whole hardcore GT fans are gonna be piss, and those particular fans are huge.!!! PS4 exclusives don’t play on PC.
The best Sim Racing game is not Gran Turismo ( I love this series btw ). iRacing, Raceroom and Assetto Corsa, all on pc, are all miles better and far more realistic. True Sims and consoles don’t mix, most console gamers are arcade type players, and that includes racing games!
Well I’m personally moving my racing to PC, my wheel is supported and the games are a higher quality, Project cars is a great example with ps4 coming in at 50-60,000 polygons per car and PC coming in at 300-400,000 ploygons, Gran Turismo is a good game at best, the handling is great but the damage modeling is nearly non existent and the premium and standard car models….. well that’s not going to change, GT is a brand that is not willing to improve on what has made them successful, they won’t support the wheels either, GT is a dying series they just haven’t realized it yet, project cars is going to change racing games forever and on PC it’s going to blow some minds, that’s enough for me to take what little money I have and invest in a PC.
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At end of the day these companies have got to make money by producing new products…on the flip side the wheels are expensive and quite rightly many owners are angry that they won’t be compatible. I read on another forum that this security chip thing is just bogus as other older wheels work on PS4. I’ve only had my G27 and playseat a short time boght 2nd hand but still cost me a few hundred quid. I was intending buying the PS4 this weekend actually but after researching this I think I’ll have to skip the new gen of console. I can’t afford to buy a new wheel and console in todays current financial situation. So I’ll stick with the PS3 as there’s still plenty enjoyment to be had on that.
They should make the G25 and G27 compatible as they are probably the most widely used wheels. This will and allow people to upgrade to the new G29 wheel if they feel the desire and also when they have the money. At least it won’t effect SONY’s console sales but by not doing so will definately leave a gap.
Hey maybe Microsoft will make them compatible with Xbox 1 and steal some potential customers from SONY.